Yes:
An all out reform the trad back to ivy should be #1.
Be civil but refute this 'gentlemen' idea.
Do not accept any imitations.

Ole chums:

We should definately have a game plan. l just don't know what it is yet.

Why don't you talk about clothes for a change?

This is a dorky idea, but could be fun (in a dorky way, like playing Monopoly with your sister):

David--

I'd be fascinated to see your responses to the following:

Describe an ensemble that would exemplify Ivy style and be suitable for the following situations:

Hosting a small dinner party for close friends

Taking the wife out for a night on the town

Drinking and playing pool with your mates

Out to the movies with your daughter and her friends

An afternoon strolling through a museum

Lunch date with old female friend that you always wanted to **** but never did

Anyone can play, but I'd love to hear your ideas.  Feel free to set this in any season, add outerwear, etc.

Last edited by Brownshoe (2007-12-05 12:37:39)

David--

I'm just a nice midwestern boy without a guileful bone in my body.  I really have no stake in the whole trad vs. ivy thing--I find your position interesting and provocative, but I have no emotional investment in the debate.  I just like the clothes, and thought my dorky (c'mon, it's pretty naff) little questionaire would be a fun (ish) way of talking about them and exchanging ideas. 

You clearly are passionate and knowledgable about the subject.  I want to get your take on what might look good, today (vs. historical analysis), in specific terms.  I'm not trying to catch you out or challenge you or anything.  At the very worst, I'm looking to steal some ideas.

My interest is more practical than curatorial, I guess.  I won't be offended if you don't want to play.  I feel my instincts get sharper the longer I pursue the look and the more I can pick up from those better informed, that's all.  And there is a "High Fidelity" list-making aspect to the proposed game that appeals to my nerdiness.

It's always interesting chatting with you--

Arthur

+1

I've given up game plans. I'm just going to wear the same thing every day.  Cat, now and forever!!!   I mean trad, yeah, trad, now and forever.

You make a lot of noise.

Thanks, David.

I thought lagniappe meant something like "a small gift."  I have a vague memory of William Buckley using the term in an introduction to an old Doonesbury compilation.