At the moment many of the posters seem to be from here. Are they really? Who knows. Was Hardbopper ever a name here?

What I do know is that I have tried to post several times and have yet to succeed. The new guy must spend a lot of time checking before publishing the comments.

Even as I type, lawyers representing TRS and myself are sifting and assessing.  My attorney Bernie reckons there's enough evidence there to hang any man - but only after he's been driven roughshod through the bankruptcy courts, his wife and children condemned to buggery (sorry, that should read beggary) and TRS is handed a large cash settlement plus the residence of his choice in Tuscany.

Those comments are obviously piss takes of TI posters rather than the posters themselves. Not particularly good piss takes unfortunately, although to be fair AFS is beyond satire. I assume the aim is to enrage those being mocked, although personally I can't imagine any of them caring.

The person responsible is probably someone from the US who is triggered by the very concept of UK ivy fans. IS used to be full of such types.

Last edited by Yuca (2022-07-02 02:00:31)

AFS is both above, beneath, beyond and even behind satire (but, in fact, as I believe Lindsay Anderson once said, satire is all too often confused with facetiousness in western society, where targets are easy and rarely bite back: satire is more often to be found in 'totalitarian' set-ups.  Even Lenny Bruce must have earned a dollar or two).  Yuca, however, should learn to a. put a smile on his face b. get laid at least once whenever there's an R in the month and c. drive up and down Radford Boulevard in a high-powered sports car, the stiff breeze blowing through his wig.

My cousin was visiting a few weeks back. In summer I am always on the verge of going fishing, and as such tend to be dressed in something in a khaki color. My cousin asked if I ever wear anything that is not khaki-colored. "Sometimes I slip in a little olive drab," I said.

I prefer "slouchy" to "dowdy." The latter sounds like it comes with mildew.

I never look at Ivy Style. I briefly corresponded with Christian Whosie many years ago, I forget about what, and that's the extent of it.

This Parish already has, or had, its House Satirist - the great wag himself, The Beatnik. In fact I'd say that although we all get a bit bored, and boring, on this forum, the amount of genuine wit, insight and wisdom generated over the 16 years or so of its existence is really quite remarkable. Particularly when compared to the usual utter bilge out there on the web, including of course all the other menswear websites. So we say we are 'Talking Ivy' here, but perhaps Ivy in this context is a metaphor for curiosity about a whole era, history and the many ways of thinking about many things.

The latest:

Gibson Gardens? |? July 1, 2022 at 3:19 pm? |? Reply

Wearing my khakis right now and getting complimented left right and center. Almost as if these bad boys have a voice.


A Fine Sad Man? |? July 1, 2022 at 6:33 pm? |? Reply

Wore mine out to dinner today.


A Fine Sad Man? |? July 1, 2022 at 9:12 pm? |? Reply

I like to go to doctors who know what they are doing and I like tailors who know the same. I am 100% certain that the genius tailor who cut my new khakis knew totally what he wanted and I know totally ‘I want some more!’ Just like Ollie in Dickknson’s movie.


Kingsman? |? July 1, 2022 at 9:37 pm? |? Reply

Thank you so much for making me aware of yhese great trassuhs.


Horace? |? July 2, 2022 at 10:25 am? |? Reply

So nice to see so many pf my old chums applauding these superb khakis. When you wear them, as many chums have said, you get an immediate reaction from those around you. It is indeed as if these trousers have a voice.

Voice? The quality of the cloth and the handwork is whispering to me now chums. Listen carefully. You will hear it to


Kingsman? |? July 4, 2022 at 5:24 am? |? Reply

Just been chatting with Paul Simons. I showed him my khakis.He said he could do something simlar maybe, but definitely no cheaper for such quality trassuhs.


Shammy Amboise? |? July 4, 2022 at 2:07 pm? |? Reply

These are most excellent. I’ve yet to see them on any of the hundreds of instagram influencers I obsessively follow, I’ve got to broaden my horizons a bit it appears! Pictures, as always, tell the complete story! Of course well chosen words help! I think in years to come chinos like these will appreciate in value like rare northern soul vinyls. Sweet!


Gibson Gardens? |? July 4, 2022 at 4:08 pm? |? Reply

@ Shammy Amboise

Welcome, Shammy. You will be in dreamsville with these chinos. Long after the night is all over these will be there with you.

I'm having a hard time imagining anyone other than JB writing those comments. I think it's safe to assume it's likely to be one culprit, and the primary purpose of the comments seems to be heaping praise upon the advertisers and the editorial skills of John Burton rather than taking the piss out of Talk Ivy commenters. It also wouldn't be out of character given his background:

Parents Still Chasing Refunds, Music Customers Out of Luck
https://patch.com/new-york/bedford/arts-center-refunds-slow-music-customers-out-of-luck

Jordan Malmed of Cross River placed a flute and trombone on consignment with Bramson's Music when it was still located in Mt. Kisco. After reading the he visited the Yellow Monkey Village in Cross River, where Main Street Arts founder John Burton had moved the music store's inventory after purchasing the business.

"There were no sign of any instruments there," said Malmed, who visited the location several times early this year, hoping to recover his property. "These belonged to my little girl. We are not a wealthy family that can shrug away the loss of these instruments that are worth $2,000."

And as if that wasn't bad enough, it gets worse:

"People v. John Burton-Schepmoes - Defendant was arrested on October 27, 2015, after a preliminary investigation into his "The Brookings Mediation Firm" located in Carmel, NY. He was indicted and ultimately pled guilty to one count of Grand Larceny in the 4th Degree (a class E felony), one count of Petit Larceny (a class A misdemeanor), and one count of Unauthorized Practice of Law (an unclassified misdemeanor). Burton was sentenced to five years’ probation and, as part of his sentence, ordered to pay restitution in the amount of $30,000.00 to his victims.

"Extensive Investigation continued into Brookings Mediation’s practices as more information and former clients of Burton became known to the District Attorney’s Office. As a result, additional charges were filed and he was again arrested on November 15, 2016. Burton pled guilty on February 1, 2017, to two counts of Grand Larceny in the 3rd Degree (a class D felony). Sentencing will be on March 16, 2017, at which time Burton will be sentenced to a concurrent term of five years probation, and ordered to pay an additional $39,776.32 in restitution to victims."

https://www.putnamcountyny.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Annual-Report-District-Attorney-2016.pdf

I'm not saying someone guilty of stealing tens of thousands of dollars from people should be treated as a capital offense, but I think it's safe to say that he's not someone that should be given the benefit of the doubt. The idea that his writing has been praised by "hundreds of thousands" of people and that he is "well known" for pretty much anything is a bald-faced lie:

"John Burton lives in Bedford NY, and is a touring singer/songwriter during summers and vacations.  His blogs have been read and praised by hundreds of thousands, combining a sense of humor with a mandate of inclusivity.  Burton insists on maintaining the Ivy aesthetic in the strictest sense while encouraging self expression.   Burton is also well known for his work in the advocacy of understanding and appreciation of all aspects of mental health, and his former career in corporate turnaround."

http://www.ivy-style.com/ivy-style-com-acquired-by-fortified-enterprises-llc-john-burton.html

Last edited by IvyStyled (2022-07-05 17:33:18)

Yeah, it's definitely the same John Burton. He has an old Twitter account where he posted about the firm. There's also an early post on that Patch website announcing his project with a photo:

https://twitter.com/jburtonexdir/status/251328450055512069

https://patch.com/new-york/bedford/plans-announced-for-new-arts-education-campus-in-nort1ba14bdb9d

As I said, nuts.

Very good detective work by IvyStyled incidentally.

I'm just waiting for the latest Volkischer Beobachter to arrive from a small town near Munich and The KKK Monthly from Baton Rouge.  I can then happily set aside The Sun, The Mail and last weeks News Of The World and get down to some real race-baiting.